Resident Cites Concerns Over ShopRite Liquor Sales
Dr. Peter King asked the council to weigh in on his worry that a food store selling alcohol is becoming a liquor store selling food.
In June 2012, the Parsippany Town Council approved the Route 46 ShopRite's request to transfer its liquor license to the supermarket so that it could sell alcohol products from the market itself, rather than from a separate storefront. Less than a year later, a citizen brought concerns over the operation to the council at its Tuesday agenda meeting at Town Hall.
Dr. Peter King, who said he had opposed the liquor license transfer, told Patch that ShopRite misrepresented itself when it made its request last year.
"Instead of being a store that sells food and offers a limited amount of alcohol for sale, it's become a liquor store that sells a limited amount of food," he complained.
At the council's June 26 meeting, Shop Rite spokesperson Ned Gladstein said the market would confine most of the liquor to particular aisles and merely feature particular items with sale prices in different areas of ShopRite.
When Patch visited the store in July 2012, there were specific alcohol-product aisles and numerous displays throughout the store.
King expanded on his thoughts during the public comment portion of the Tuesday council meeting.
The Lake Hiawatha resident said he has visited the store periodically since the license transfer and has seen alcohol products move into just about every aisle of the market.
"That's not what we agreed to, and that's not what you people approved," he told the council. "I know they make more money selling liquor than food, but that was not the intent."
King requested that the council look into to situation in an effort to prevail upon the supermarket to abide by conditions set at the time of the license transfer.
"I know you have some way of getting their attention," King said, noting that he may take his complaint to some alcohol regulatory agency.
Councilman Michael dePierro, who expressed concerns about the change when the matter arose last June, said he already has spoken with ShopRite management about its handling of alcohol.
According to the council member, ShopRite management is looking into acquiring a site next door to house alcoholic products.
"In other words, they want to have it both ways," King responded.
Actually, such a move would recreate in essence the market's situation prior to the transfer, when the supermarket sold food and household items and marketed liquor at a separate standalone storefront in a different part of the Route 46 shopping center in which its stands.
Patch's call to Gladstein Wednesday morning was not returned.
Robert Benson
12:50 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Doesn't Dr. Peter King have anything better to do with his time?
In most other areas of the country alcohol is sold in super markets. This is a complete non issue.
If he is so offended he can go ahead and attempt to get the temperance movement going again here in NJ.
Dave Phillips
10:02 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I disagree with you. When you walk in one of the first things you see is an abundance of booze.
They should try harder to acquire a nearby store for the booze.
Erin
2:41 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
They have the alcohol up front - where it would be harder for underage kids to try stealing bottles of liquor - and they've also got police watching that section. There's a cold beer case on the other side of the supermarket, and there are a handful of beer/wine displays in the store.. They're not trying to open a porn store next to a pre school. They are selling alcohol to people old enough to buy alcohol. Like just about every other normal state allows. We're not going to hell for being able to buy our wine and our dinner in the same trip.
Chris
3:55 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Yeah, this guy really has too much time on his hands. No wonder its sooo difficult to do business in NJ.
In every other state, you can buy alcohol in, not only a grocery store, but a gas station, a 7-11 or any other establishment that sells food.
Plus, idk if anyone realized it, there are always like 5 security personnel standing around the booze. So its not like kids are going in there and buying akle.
Edd Flammer
2:07 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
The only one who has a valid issue with Shop rite in this situation is the bottle king on the other side of 46.If Dr. King works for them then he should say so.. otherwise if he has some moral objection then he should vote with his wallet and shop elsewhere.
Chris
4:03 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I don't know why anyone would buy booze from Shoprite anyway. Bottle King across the street has MUCH better prices for the same stuff. Compare any item and I assure you that Bottle King sells it for about $1-5 bucks cheaper. Seriously. (and no I don't work for Bottle King, I just like that store better).
p.s. - I wonder how people would react if Bottle King started selling groceries. haha
VietNam Vet
4:21 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
My wife and I shop here many many times and I don't see the problem that this guy seems to have.
g
2:49 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
When you display alcohol all over the place it becomes an attractive lure:
"Hey, who wants a drink?"
"Oh, come on, just one drink won't hurt you. It's fun."
"It's cool. Everybody drinks, right?"
Drinking alcohol is dangerous for kids and teens and sometimes for adults, too. Alcohol is a drug, and it is the drug most abused by teens. Many kids have their first drink at an early age, as young as 10 or 11 or even younger.
It's easy for kids to get the wrong message about alcohol. They might see their parents drink or watch TV commercials that make drinking look like a lot of fun. You might see people drinking and watching sports together or having a big party.
But alcohol is actually a depressant. That means it's a drug that slows down or depresses the brain. Like many drugs, alcohol changes a person's ability to think, speak, and see things as they really are. A person might lose his or her balance and have trouble walking properly. The person might feel relaxed and happy and later start crying or get in an argument.
From kids health.
Chris
3:59 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Thanks G. I think we are all adults here and know how alcohol affects our bodies. We didn't need to hear it from you. Reading a comment like yours makes me need a drink.
Jeff
6:38 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
g -- your argument is ridiculous. I guess you don't eat Penne Vodka..... Careful -- that is depressing. In addition, should we ban kids from going to applebees and TGIF as they have Bars that sell alcohol. The kids might get the wrong idea about drinking.... Seriously -- prohibition has ended and as noted there are many states that sell alcohol and groceries in together. This whole thing is stupid.
Richard
6:27 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
There are ShopRites in Rockaway and Wharton that have had liquor departments for years. No problems there.
Hannah Swan
11:23 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
When I complained to the manager about the liquor all over the store, he told me I
did not have to return if I did not like it. I haven't. I now shop in Rockaway where
the liquor is confined to one area.
Chris
4:01 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Hannah... you know, there are other food stores around. You don't only have to shop at Shoprite. The store is prob making MUCH more off the sale of booze than they prob ever got from you.
Jeff
6:43 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Hannah -- good for the manager. Nobody is forcing you to shop there. In addition, I honestly do not know why having alcohol present is going to impact your shopping experience. I guess you don't go to bar's, restaurants or sporting events that sell liquor either....
Patrick
8:13 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I think it's an absolute disaster with the alcohol. Put it all in the corner with a partition. When they get the property next door, move it all into there. Right now it's all over the place. It's a disorganized mess.
Dave Phillips
10:03 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I agree with you.
Robert J
11:11 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Why put it in a corner with a partition? Why do they need to move it next door? Shoprite is not selling an illegal substance. Children can't buy the liquor. If this is an aesthetic issue or an organization issue - just shop somewhere else. Isn't there a grocery store in the shopping center with the LA Fitness?
Patrick
12:07 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
At the end of the day, alcohol is a controlled substance. It should absolutely be segregated.
The main issue is that it's a mess because the alcoholic stuff is all over the place. Put it all together like everything else. There's a dairy isle. There's a frozen food isle. There's a canned food isle. Etc etc etc.
Jeff
6:46 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Right Patrick a partition with the other drugs and adult magazines... Seriously -- what difference does it make.
On a side note -- I do agree with you on the disorganization -- if I did want to purchase wine -- it is a bit difficult to figure it out.
Jeff
6:47 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
It is not a controlled substance -- it is not prescribed. Where is your outrage on cigarettes?
Citizen Jane
10:42 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I don't have a problem with alcohol being sold in the store, but I would prefer it be located in a separate area. I worry my kids are going to knock a bottle off the displays. It's enough of a concern that I'll go to Foodtown or Pathmark if I have to bring a kid along to shop.
Erin
2:45 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Your kids could just as easily knock over an expensive glass bottle of olive oil
Jeff
6:49 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Agree on organizing it -- however - if you don't have control over your kids that is a completely separate problem.
Mike Hatler
11:15 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
The cool thing about a free market society is that if you don't like the policies and practices of a particular establishment you can just take your business elsewhere.
Natalie
11:31 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I most likely will take my business elsewhere. The store is a mess now, alcohol everywhere and so disorganized. Why would I shop for my baby supplies in the same aisle as the wine! Ridiculous!
Can't wait for a Whole Foods or a Wegmans!
Patrick
11:59 am on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Great idea! I'm excited for more local options as well. As much as we like ShopRite, they're going to have to step it up to be competitive w/ the competition.
Jeff
6:50 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Love to see those stores as well -- however -- with all the uproar will be surprised if it happens
the grin reaper
12:33 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Leave NJ and every supermarket has liquor and beer sales. And just like in Shop Rite, in those stores the alcohol is often merchandised throughout the store (beer with chips, wine near cheese, etc). People saying that they will not shop there because of the alcohol sound ridiculous. That would be like someone who doesn't have pets saying they won't shop in a store that also sells cat food.
Frank Gratkowski
12:43 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Simlpe things for simple minds.
There are more important thing to worry about.
Like the econony. taxes, obamacare and it's
never ending tax burden on everyone
Robyn M.
12:58 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
I am glad ShopRite has the liquor inside the store - I absolutely love that I can get everything I need in one place when I have a party or get together. I do think the liquor is oddly positioned throughout the store, but it's more of an aesthetically confusing problem that may result in people not finding the beer, which someone thought belonged by the hot dogs, on the other side of the store from the rest of the stuff. Or, the wines that are scattered throughout produce, alongside the cafe and before the baby aisle. As to liquor "in" the baby aisle. It's not - it's a shorter aisle before the baby aisle. I have some business to conduct in the baby aisle, as well, so I'm fully aware. My kids don't play with liquor bottles, though - they are only into the lobster tank, balloons and fancy, decorated baked goods.
Sick of the Bull
1:46 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Yo Doc, you are an idiot. Have you ever even been to that shoprite. I challenge you to find a food store with more choices then that store. Hot, cold, prepared, bakery, they have it all. I dont drink, but I do use wine to cook and it is a great convienence to have everything in one store. You need to get a life bud. Find a more important subject to whine (ha, I made a funny) about.
NJ Resident
11:27 pm on Thursday, March 14, 2013
Ok.. i just read this comment "Why would I shop for my baby supplies in the same aisle as the wine! ".. what? How does wine affect your baby supplies? Do you think it will seep into your baby formula? That comment made NO sense and one has nothing to do with the OTHER. i will agree, I wish they had the aisles a bit more organized. However, there is a cross-aisle that separates the 3 1/3 length aisles of alcohol from the rest of them. And yes, there are very visible security personnel present. If you think about it, the alcohol is in a very visible place.. and 2 short aisles are easier to police then one long aisle. You know, THEFT deterrant? Unlike the SCORES of people i see all the time, munching on cherries, GRAPES etc.. or opening bottles of iced tea, snacking off the salad bar.. you know, THEFT? Shoprite is a huge store, the alcohol is a small percentage. There are worse things to worry about. Looks like just another "thing" to complain about. And if you're "worried" your kids will knock over a bottle.. here's news for you, they can break OTHER things in the store too.. control them or leave them home. And not for nothing, you can't wait for "Whole Foods" or Wegmans? You're kidding right? Go to Pathmark or Foodtown. they don't have alcohol. Its not like shoprite is the ONLY store..
ParResident
8:59 am on Friday, March 15, 2013
Get a life people, there are more pressing issues in this town then a bottle of wine next to your diapers. Do something constructive for your town instead of bashing a grocery store. Really!!!
Chris
10:28 am on Friday, March 15, 2013
Haha... exactly. I don't know why its such a big deal. People Definitely have wayyyy way too much time on their hands if this is the biggest problem in their lives.
If you don't like the booze in the isles, there are plenty of other food stores to go. That's the great thing about a free market economy and freedom for consumers to choose where they want to shop.
Patrick
9:37 am on Friday, March 15, 2013
Wow... there are a lot of touchy people in this town. Apparently people are not allowed to have an opinion, especially when it's on topic.
NJ Resident
2:54 pm on Friday, March 15, 2013
@Patrick,
I don't think its people are not allowed to have an opinion.. but complaining to complain is not only alarmist, but come on, since when does a few short aisles of alcohol become "upsetting" and "disturbing"? I truly fail to see the rationale for that. Next thing you know, people be freaking out because they don't want to buy their vitamins in the same aisle as condoms, or laxatives or Ensure or a candy bar.. people need to seriously grow up and quit nitpicking.
Pete
11:51 am on Friday, March 15, 2013
What a lot of happy horse-radish !!!
The Shop-Rite is still a food store, first and foremost. If the presence of alcohol is disturbing, there are two other chain food stores in town, plus two more in Boonton. Go there instead.
On the other hand, the discount shoe store that was at the inside corner near Shop-Rite is now vacant. I don't think it has enough floor-space for a full-service liquor store, but it's got possibilities.
Par4theCourse
9:41 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013
The alcohol issue is more of a nuisance than anything else. I'm more concerned with the downward spiral of cleanliness, quality of food, competency of management etc which has been a problem at this store of late. The new Whole Foods will resolve this. Worth the little bit of traffic and a coupla more kids to the school district. All for the greater good...
DXNJ
10:16 am on Sunday, March 17, 2013
So I take it you didn't like the hot fresh bananas the store put out one day. Talk about lack of quality control. I have never come across bananas that were hot unless they were in a pie.
Shop rite is the best grocery store around, but the quality of some of the fruit and deli items has gone down hill. Still beats over priced disgusting Food town.
The alcohol is a non issue other than the disorganized snack aisle which is almost non existent now. They do have security and do check ID's.
Goto any other state and you can buy alcohol at grocery and convenient stores, including liquor at Costco.
Par4theCourse
6:39 pm on Sunday, March 17, 2013
Not to mention the lady doing the weekly ad over the PA with the most grating voice ever. Makes me want to run through the front window to get away ...
Harry S Sebastian
9:16 pm on Sunday, March 17, 2013
What on earth is the big deal here? So they sell booze in a food store. It's not like cats and dogs are getting drunk and living together. So what?
Ed Dantes
10:00 pm on Sunday, March 17, 2013
Why is everyone complaining about this? Shop Rite in Wharton and Rockaway sell alcohol? The Shop Rite in Morris Plains had a liquor store between them and 2 Guys years ago. The Costco in Wayne sells food and alcohol. The old Lake Parsippany General Store (Next to Lk Parsippany elementary) sold food and liquor for years. Plus Shop Rite had a liquor store in Arlington plaza for many years before the Bottle King acquired the old Lk Par General store liquor license and opened across the street. Buy whatever you want wherever you want, but as long as there is security and minor aren’t getting liquor who cares?
Alex
7:25 am on Monday, March 18, 2013
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. A big to do about nothing! NJ has got such outdated laws when it comes to alcohol sale. The people who live here should do some traveling around the country to find how foolish they are being about the alcohol sale in the supermarket. In Arizona, alcohol was sold everywhere and very convenient for the customer. In all supermarkets, gas stations, drug stores like CVS etc...its so common that its laughable when I read what a big deal people are making about the Shop Rite. The only thing I can think of its that the small liquor stores are feeling threatened that their business will go under once more and more supermarkets and other chains start selling alcohol at more competitive prices. So it wouldn't suprise me that they are behind all this nonsence. Get a life people. More important things to worry about.
BigMama
9:48 am on Monday, March 18, 2013
Completely disagree. As parents, thankfully, we can choose, to a great extent, what our children are exposed to. We have chosen not to take our children to liquor stores - deliberately. Therefore, when the liquor first appeared at Shop Rite and one of our children exclaimed, "Why is there beer in the candy aisle?", we took exception to this. There is no reason that all that alcohol has to be in your face, as soon as you walk in, all over the store. That's right - it is all over the store. The flip side of this is that even if someone wants to buy a specific wine or other type of alcohol, it is difficult to find because it is 'all over the store.' Shop-Rite is a family friendly grocer, and having alcohol all over the place and a security guard front and center is not conducive to their family friendly image. As for what the profits are, many families spend upward of 10K per year there, if it is their main grocer. Having spoken at least three times with management, once the response was cavalier, in that they were content with the displays all over. However, two other times we were told that they were in the process of moving it to one part of the store. While it is true that there are other grocery stores that sell alcohol, it is displayed in one part of the store, and not smack in the front, either. Would it be so difficult to allocate one part of the store for the alcohol, in this way considering the impact on children, but also the convenience for Shop-Rite patrons?
Chris
10:04 am on Monday, March 18, 2013
Where is there alcohol all over the store? I just went there yesterday and, yes, I saw some wine bottles in the front by the Deli Dept, and then I saw the alcohol in the beer/booze isles. Didn't see it in any other place around the store. I mean, I didn't go searching for it, but apparently you have to really look hard to find it.
Oh, I found some in the Kosher isle, too. Just happened to walk down there and I saw the Manischewitz sitting RIGHT THERE ON THE SHELF!!!! I can't believe it.
And I also saw some Red Wine Vinegar in the salad dressing isle. One more isle I can't walk down now.
Its everywhere. Alcohol everywhere I go... I just can't get away from it. Damn Shoprite is going to ruin my kids lives forever.
Chris
10:19 am on Monday, March 18, 2013
Wait.. you are complaining about the alcohal, but you are bringing your kids into the candy isle? Do you really think candy is any better?
"As parents, thankfully, we can choose, to a great extent, what our children are exposed to. ...one of our children exclaimed, Why is there beer in the candy aisle?"
BIGMama... you might not want to bring your kids into the candy isle either. Each year, 400,000 people die because of obesity and only 75,000 people die because of alcohol related deaths. (google it)
So, yes you can be all crazy and fanatical about some beer and wine, but apparently you don't give a hoot about something that is 533% more likely to kill your kids. But hey let them enjoy their candy. You're killing them faster by letting them eat their Starburst and their Kit-Kats, but hey, at least you will have fat, but sober kids.
mike b
11:32 am on Monday, March 18, 2013
I don't care that they sell alcohol at this Shopwrong, but I do care that they require a drivers license from everyone, even a 52 year old like myself, then, without asking your permission, the clerk scans the barcode of your license into thier system! After questioning the clerk about this policy and receiving no reasonable explanation, I will certainly NEVER purchase alcohol there ever again. If you are concerned about your personal info, neither should you.
Chris
11:51 am on Monday, March 18, 2013
haha... I love the sarcasm, Mike.
Wait, that was sarcasm.... right?
Parsippany Resident
8:58 am on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
@The Title of the article: 'Resident cites concern'? Sounds more like resident has a personal problem with alcohol, and or shop rite & wants to use the government to get his own way. Making up lies about the total sales of food vs alcohol, and stating them as fact and even asserting that he "knows" they make more money from alcohol than they do food. What a moron.
Typical of a spoiled American. Whine, bit **ch and complain. So Spoiled a lot you people are! You have no idea how spoiled you are. Moaning how he wants or doesn't want something that he should mind his business regarding. And more typical of the north east (and left coast as well), going to the government to get his own way.
Do I have to move to a red state in order to have people mind their business and government to shut up? How about I complain that they put monstrous potato chip displays in the grocery and pasta isle? "Its all over the place" "Its in every store" "They make more money from potato chips than they do food" " I know this to be fact".
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!
Parsippany Resident
9:09 am on Tuesday, March 19, 2013
@ Dave Phillips... The first thing I see when I walk in is a troll employee asking me how I'm doing and distracting me from remembering whether I am going left to produce or right to the rest of the store. And further, apparently it doesn't matter if I ignore her because she will dispute my silence with a follow up question. The second thing I see are fat people getting prescriptions for ill health. The third thing I see are too many managers standing around talking quietly. The fourth thing I see is a lot of tasty food, which prompts me to remember the people I saw in the prescription line.
@Ed Flammer re:Bottle King.. They may be slightly cheaper but they are arrogant too. I have a one eye bulging cigarette smoker that stares at me every time I go in. I think I saw him in shop rite,.... at the prescription counter, eating a slice of pizza.
@BigMama.... "There is no reason that all that alcohol has to be in your face, as soon as you walk in, all over the store. ??? Really? Have you ever heard of commerce? Sales? Displays? Spur of the moment buying? Yes in deed there are many reasons for products to be displayed.
Freedom of speech has gone too far. I can't wait until the power grid goes out for a year or two. Then what will you all do? Spoiled!!!!!!!