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Whole Foods Market Waterview Plan: What Do You Think?

A battle is raging at Planning Board meetings over a plan to place a mixed-use development to Waterview Plaza.

 

The Planning Board has endured two meetings worth of fighting over a proposed plan to put a mixed-use development including a Whole Foods Market and an upscale townhome community on the wooded lot that now makes up Waterview Plaza.

Residents of the Intervale area argue that the land should stay as is. They add that any development would have a negative impact on traffic, schools, infrastructure and quality of life in general.

Others argue that Parsippany needs rateables for economic development and that upscale townhomes would benefit the community.

What do you think? Take the Parsippany Patch poll and expand on your views in comments.

  • What do you think of the proposed Whole Foods Market Waterview Plaza development proposal?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • I'm for it! This would be an excellent way to bring healthful shopping, upscale neighbors and rateables to the township.
        20 (28%)
    • I do not live in Intervale but I'm opposed! There is too much development in Parsippany.
        23 (32%)
    • I live in Intervale and I oppose it! This project would change the area's culture and negatively impact residents' quality of life.
        28 (39%)
    • Unsure.
        0 (0%)
    Total votes: 71
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Business, Government, Planning Board, Poll, Whole foods Market, economic develioment, and waterview plaza

Sue Martin

4:33 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

What are they going to be doing with the old Michaels location? Can't they use that for the Whole Foods? It's already built and empty.

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Chris

5:04 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Well, Micheal's was set up as a retail store arts store, not as a grocery store. I highly doubt Micheal's has freezers and refrigerators as well as all the other "stuff" grocery stores have to keep food fresh. I am sure whole foods, a multi-million dollar company, did their due diligence and the economics prob don't work out to their favor.

Also, isn't Michael's next to Foodtown? Why would they need two food stores right next to each other. There is a food store west of 287 on Rt. 46.

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Chris

5:05 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

"There isn't* any food stores west of 287 on 46." is what I meant to say!

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Annie

5:53 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

@Chris-The empty Michaels spot across from where they plan on building this is not set up as an Art store. It is an empty retail space that could be set up as a food store with freezers and refrigerators but the space probably is not sufficient for Whole Foods needs. The new Michaels location is in the strip mall with a pathmark.

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Chris

6:16 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Gotcha Annie. Well, I can obviously see why that location is not an ideal spot. I don't think I have ever went in that shopping plaza and you can't really even see any of the stores from the street, so you don't even know what is back there.

Even so, I think that would be a good spot for Food Store because there isn't one around there and I hate the Pathmark. Its so old and dirty. It would be nice to have a nice grocery store to shop in.

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sue salzman

11:56 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Good Idea since this space had been an ACME Markets for years...

Michael S Fenton

4:45 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Any argument about increasing traffic is silly. Would you rather have a store that succeeds or one that is a failure. Any store that doesn't generate traffic is one that will surely fail.

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Annie

5:59 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Exactly, and what we do not need in Parsippany is MORE traffic, particularly the transient kind that is a continuous back and forth throughout the day, 7 days a week, day and night. The land is currently zoned for office space which would curtail the bulk of increased traffic to M-F, 9-5. No weekends, no holidays, no evening hours. No tractor trailers hauling food or merchandise to the stores, etc, etc. They need to rezone or "overlay" to move forward. That is what is happening, they have applied for an "overlay" approval to build this development.

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Curt

12:46 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Chris,
The Michaels used to be an ACME food store so your arguement does not hold up. Whole foods does not have to build a new store that is just what the developer is saying so they can get it approved. There is almost as much empty retail space as empty offices so their arguement does not hold up either. AS ALWAYS IT IS JUST ABOUT MONEY. Also why is it every arguement you make for this development is the complete opposite of everyone else's. You have not agreed to even the simplest of points and sometimes you ane mean and nasty. WHY?

Kevin Guhl

5:02 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Wow, that many votes for it? Surprised.

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Dave Phillips

6:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Looks like the developers and the mayor have voted yes.

Annie

5:49 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

This article and the others repeatedly refer to the Intervale community, but I beleive more than just the "Intervale" residents are against this. It has a significant impact on many areas through out Parsippany. The increased traffice will affect many other areas (Rainbow lakes, Lake parsippany) and any person who has to drive on Rt 46 between 4-6 week nights. In addition the weekend & holiday traffic to this development will be all over Parsipanny, as well, as area towns drive through our local streets to get to it. Also, the othe resources (water, school, police,fire, etc) impacts all of Parsippany not just Intervale. The children in these townhomes will be bused to other schools if there is no room in Intervale elementary, they will also add to the enrollment at Brooklawn Middle school and the Hills High school, adding to those class sizes as well. This is much bigger than just an "Intervale" problem.

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Natalie Davis

11:28 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

And if you've read the articles, you'll see that we mention other areas. If you look at the poll there is even a response geared to those who do not live in Intervale.

Meghan

5:52 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

there are already too many stores siting empty in Parsippany. Even more along 10 in Whippany. leave the woods. Put the store somewhere already built.

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Karen Phelps

6:42 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Yes, Meghan, that is what I was going to say....there are WAY too MANY unused stores in Parsippany...lots of wasted space....they should just use what is already built!

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Arline Amaducci

7:00 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Actually the now empty Micheal's in Morris Hills Shopping Center was originally a grocery store.

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EdC

8:00 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

The concept as it stands now attempts to exceed ALL existing zoning ordinance limits! Retail AND residential!
Although the lot is meant to be developed, the level that is sought here totally ignores the current Master Plan, the document that is meant to define Parsippany's character.
So someone please convince me that is considered RESPONSIBLE development!

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Lex Jansen

8:25 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012

I voted yes, and I'm not the mayor or a developer. Just love a good store at a good spot.

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K.E.

8:37 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Where Michael's was used to be an A&P. There are too many empty stores in Parsippany...why can't they use one of them?

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Andrew Stalgaitis

10:24 pm on Wednesday, December 5, 2012

Who sees this turning into a repeat of the Honeywell fiasco in Morris Township?

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Beachdudeca

12:44 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

As someone that used to live in Parsippany , you might be missing an opportunity.
The plan shows 70+ Townhouses, 1 mid size retail space for Whole Foods, a very large Retail space, and a tiny space with tons of parking, and no green public space.
The township should let them build the Whole Foods if they can secure a long term lease.
Have the large retail space instead designated for YMCA with a very long slightly below market rate lease.
As for the housing have them inicrease it to 100+ but also have them required to include a public green space between the 2 Whole Foods , Retail Space and the Housing ,

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Curt

11:13 am on Thursday, December 6, 2012

How is this missing an opportunity? There is a YMCA 2 miles away. The 70 townhouses are already considered too dense and against the master plan. There would be more green space if it were left for offices as per the master plan. Just drive down Waterview Blvd. and you will see lots of green space and buffers between the current buildings. KEEP THE MASTER PLAN AS IT IS! WHAT DOES A LONG TERM LEASE HAVE TO DO WITH CHANGING THE CURRENT ZONING?

Annie

8:00 pm on Friday, December 7, 2012

The current online tax records for the 26 acres, blk 421 & lot 29, says that Bellemead Dev Group/Chubb at 15 Mt. View Rd, Warren, NJ owns the property. Maybe these people will buy the property from Bellmead/Chubb if they can get the zoning changed. Is it possible this is all speculation, because I do not see the property being sold to anyone. I'm not an expert at looking at these records so I could be mistaken.

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Tricia Vanderhoof

11:24 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Not many people remember this but that whole area was part of the Dodge estate. When she died, she deeded it to the Town of Parsippany with the sole proviso that is would remain a refuge for wildlife and never be developed. I was a Parsippany resident then and it took the town/county officials and lawyers only a few years to demolish that part of her will and the land. Don't hold your breath. This is a done deal.

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Natalie Davis

11:32 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Actually, we are not sure of that. Still digging; research takes time,, esp.when you're one person covering the entire town and everything going on. Only so many hours in a day. I spoke with someone at the Dodge Foundation yesterday, and she said that the land was sold in the 1960s prior to the foundation's start. Mrs. Dodge's love for animals, however, is well documented.

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Annie

6:59 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

@Tricia Vanderhoof-do you remember what year this happened in? Some residents have said the land was NOT given to the town and was sold to developers directly from the Dodge Estate. So we continue to recieve conflicting information. If we could determine a year, we could look up old newspaper articles that covered her death, her will and the legal struggle over the land. If you are a Facebook user, you can follow our effort at Stop the Overdevelopment of Waterview page and group.

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