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Ice Cream Ban Could Cost PTAs $20K, Member Says

One father argues frozen treat does meet nutritional requirements and should be permitted.

A member of the Intervale Elementary School Parent-Teacher Association says the school district may have been too quick to stop PTA lunchtime ice cream fundraisers.

A memo sent Monday to PTAs from the district informed them that federal and state law do not permit fundraising food sales during any time when school nutritional programs are in operation. 

This comes as a major blow to the associations, which rely on weekly cafeteria ice cream sales to raise funds for student activities and events.

"These sales helped generate approximately $2,000 a year for our local PTA, which makes up a good part of our budget," said self-desribed concerned father Andrew Sadowski in a letter he sent to Superintendent of Schools LeRoy Seitz. "With the loss of this revenue, we will have to find alternative ways to recoup this loss. On a district level, based on our average sales, all local PTA's stand to lose $20,000 in revenue."  

And Sadowski said researching the laws involved shows there may be justification to allow the sales after all.

"After reading the regulation, it appears as though there is an exception to the [federal] rule," he said. "Part B of the regulation states, 'The sale of other competitive foods may, at the discretion of the state agency and school food authority, be allowed in the food service area during the lunch period only if all income from the sale of such foods accrues to the benefit of the nonprofit school food service or the school or student organizations approved by the school.'"    

He noted the law in question prohibits the sale of soda water, ices, water ices, chewing gum and certain candies. Ice cream, however, is different, he argued.

"There is no reference to ice cream as having no nutritional value," Sadowski said. "In fact, certain ice creams meet the required regulation and it is my belief that ice cream falls into the competitive food sale category, allowing us to sell it.

"The Intervale PTA is the not-for-profit organization chosen by our school, and the same applies for all the local PTAs—and sales directly benefit the children of the Parsippany School District."

Sadowski said the PTA, being aware of the state guidelines, will follow them should the ban be reversed. In the meantime, he said he was awaiting a response from Superintendent Seitz.

Seitz could not immediately be reached for comment on Friday.

"Dingmans Dairy, our provider, has provided our PTA with ice cream choices that adhere to these standards," Sadowski said, asking the superintendent to look into the matter.  

He also asked whether a committee could be formed to determine a timely resolution for the controversy.

Liz Kadian, president of the Par-Troy PTA Council, said the group will meet next week to discuss what options are available under the present situation.

Sadowski mentioned another concern troubling PTAs.

"We also stand to lose a lot of money with a freezer full of ice cream that can not be returned," he said. "I realize we are able to sell during non-school hours. However, we order our ice cream in bulk, and in my estimations, we will have to have approximately 12 after-school functions to sell off our entire stock of ice cream."

g October 06, 2012 at 01:21 PM
Does free will exist or is reality dictated by determinism, Determinism: "a doctrine that acts of the will, occurrences in nature, or social or psychological phenomena are determined by antecedent causes". Banning ice cream is "determined" by something or someone other than ourselves. Our free will has been taken away.
Pete October 07, 2012 at 02:07 AM
"...the associations, which rely on weekly cafeteria ice cream sales to raise funds for student activities and events///" OK, so what's driving this -- the health of our students, or the pocketbooks of the "associations" ???
VietNam Vet October 07, 2012 at 06:14 AM
This is all because that dumb jerk in washington and his other half, keep voting for him and you'll keep losing your own rights everyday. How many more rights are you willing to give up?
HealthyKids October 07, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Everyone that is against the gov banning unhealthy foods for our kids I have a question for you. Are you for or against legalization of marijuana? I hope you are for it. I also hope you go down to Washington and complain because guess what more people die from obesity every year than marijuana use. There has NEVER been one recorded death from marijuana use. If you believe this is not true FIND just one article ever proving me wrong. Blame that on Regan and his war on drugs. And if your defense is that marijuana is a gateway drug and leads to harsher drugs than we should ban aspirin since this is a pain killer and we all know opiet (pain killer) drug abuse is really destroying our kids.
g October 07, 2012 at 01:56 PM
What are the short-term dangers of smoking marijuana? Impaired memory and inability to learn Difficulties in thinking and problem solving Distorted Perception Anxiety attacks or feelings of paranoia Impaired muscle coordination and judgment Increased susceptibility to infections Burning and stinging of mouth and throat Impairment in driving skills Increases the heart rate in normal people and worsens heart rate in with heart disease or high blood pressure. By Buddy T, About.com GuideNovember 2, 2003 Marijuana use is much more dangerous than believed and hundreds of young people die each year in "accidents" caused by their prolonged use of the drug, according to Britain's most senior coroner. Hamish Turner, the president of the Coroners' Society, told The Telegraph that the marijuana, often portrayed as harmless, has increasingly been the cause of deaths that have been reported as accidents or suicides. "Cannabis is as dangerous as any other drug and people must understand that it kills," said Mr Turner. "From my long experience I can say that it is a very dangerous substance. Increasingly it is mentioned not only as the first drug taken by people who overdose, but also in suicides and accidental deaths.
Judie Wrobleski October 07, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Banning icecream sales to generate revenue, really, how about banning BEGGING (aka canning). That practice has got to go.
HealthyKids October 07, 2012 at 04:59 PM
So G I guess you couldn't find ONE death in the history of human living that marijuana was declared the cause of death could you? Now go to any channel on tv and see how many people are DIEING from obesity. Lots. The point I am trying to make is this. The first thing people do is blame the gov if its something we don't like. I know my kids get excited if I offer them good fruit and even LOVE to eat asparagus. Why is this? Because that is how I choose to raise my kids. Why not sell the kids coffee during the school day? We all love it maybe they will too. And the markup the PTA could get would be way more profitable than ice cream. And don't say kids don't drink coffee because in other countries coffee is very common for kids. In my opinion That would be crazy Because these kids don't need the extra jolt of caffeine the same way they don't need the sugar from ice cream. And finally my point about marijuana is that the gov has been telling us what to do since the beginning. Alcohol kills more people daily than anything and guess what? I can have as much as I want right now. I don't condone the use of the drug but needed to use the information to try to make my dragged out point.
g October 07, 2012 at 05:24 PM
Healthykids: you wrote, Now go to any channel on tv and see how many people are DIEING from obesity. Car Crash Stats: There were nearly 6,420,000 auto accidents in the United States in 2005. The financial cost of these crashes is more than 230 Billion dollars. 2.9 million people were injured and 42,636 people killed. About 115 people die every day in vehicle crashes in the United States -- one death every 13 minutes. The government wasn't blamed. However, the government enforced seat belt laws to reduce the number of accidents. So what is your point?
HealthyKids October 07, 2012 at 05:45 PM
My point is that if you scroll up you will see everyone blaming the gov because Johnny and little Susie can't get more candy during the school day. That's my point. And seat belts are enforced to save lives not prevent accidents abs does that.
g October 07, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Healthykids, nobody is blaming the government because johnny and Susie can't get candy during the school day. Banning ice cream is "determined" by something or someone other than ourselves., the government. Our free will has been taken away. You are right, the mandatory wearing of seat belts are enforced to save lives. My error.
Nick Kumburis October 08, 2012 at 05:58 PM
What does the PTA do with the money?
Monica Sclafani October 09, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Nick - the PTA's use this money (along with other funds raised) to pay for things like cultural arts programs and field trips. All the money goes back to the kids.

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